21 Aug 2005 [From Steuard Jensen] > I told [your father] I had a speed of light question I couldn't get > the answer to and asked if he would ask you the question. He urged > me to write to you directly. I'm glad you did! I enjoy talking about these things, and explaining them is good practice for an eventual job that includes teaching. > At any rate, here is the question: > > 1. As I understand it, nothing can go faster than the speed of > light. Good start! > 2. But, suppose a rocket ship is traveling away from us here on > earth at 60% of the speed of light. And suppose another rocket ship > were traveling away from us in the opposite direction at 60% of the > speed of light. Ok. > 3. Can it properly be said that those two rocket ships are receding > from each other at 120% of the speed of light (from our observation > point here on earth?) Yes, I think that _from our point of view on earth_, it would be perfectly sensible to say that they were moving apart at 120% of the speed of light. As we would measure it, that's how fast the distance between them is increasing. > 4b. If so, (AND HERE IS THE CRUCIAL PART OF THE QUESTION) if > rocket ship A(RSA) flashed a light toward rocket ship B (RSB), would > an observer on rocket ship B ever see the light. Yes. > 5. I am guess that the observer on RSB would eventually see the > light because RSB is receding from the point of flash at only 60% the > speed of light. That's exactly right. The weirdness of relativity is that a guy on RSA, a guy on Earth, and a guy on RSB will all see the illumination from the flash spread out at the speed of light. (But to make up for that, they'll all disagree on what color it was!) > 6a. If my guess is correct, then the source point electromagnetic > disturbance of the light flash is a stationary point in space, > regardless of the speed or direction of the emitter, doesn't it? It sounds like you're right on target. Traditionally, physicists refer to a specific point in space and time as an "event". If any observer sees something happen at a particular "event", then every observer will see it as an "event" (though they will almost always use different space and time coordinates to label it). And an "event" is just a point; it knows nothing about directions or velocities. It's the same way that a dot on a piece of paper doesn't care whether the paper is held horizontally or vertically (unlike an arrow, for instance, which would look very different if you rotated the paper). [Added later: Later in our conversation, I realized that I had misunderstood his meaning here. His guess was that the source point of the flash was at a specific point in _space_ that all observers would agree was standing still at all times. That's actually not quite right. Meanwhile, my comments were based on the idea that the source point of the flash was a specific point in space _and time_. Observers will all agree that the flash took place at the same physical "event", but a minute later they will all have different notions of what point in space is "the same place" that the flash happened. I explain this more later in the conversation.] > 6b. If my guess is incorrect, then it would seem the source point of > the electromagnetic disturbance is itself moving through space. Which, as you guessed, is not the way it works. Physically, an event is always thought of as a static, unmoving thing (because it comes with a specific time coordinate in addition to specific space coordinates). Now, the behavior of physical stuff _does_ depend on the velocity of its source. As seen from Earth, a bullet that was fired from RSA at a particular "event" would have very different velocities depending on the direction it was fired and the speed of RSA. As for light, it plays by different rules: its speed would look the same whether you were watching from RSA or from Earth, but its frequency (and thus its color) would be different. > If not, that's okay. I've made it 60 years without understanding this, > so apparently a thorough understanding of the speed of light and > relativity is not essential to life as we know it. See, from _my_ point of view, 60 years is far too long to go without understanding relativity. :) I hope that my comments above were helpful (though mostly I seemed to be saying that you already had the right idea!), and if there's anything more that I can clarify for you, just let me know. Thanks for giving me an opportunity to explain this stuff (or at least to get started doing so)!